I'm with both of you on this one. I think ND is a very solid team, but not a great team. As much as it sickens me, they are all but a lock for the BCS because of their ability to draw ratings and money. I think ND is probably deserving of a 15-20 rating but certainly not #6. The thing that is really messed up about the whole deal is they are ahead of Oregon (and others they shouldn't be) who only lost to USC, when ND lost to USC and Michigan State. At least they do have one "big win" by beating 7-4 Michigan
