Wonderlic Test

[TrojHen]

I kinda feel bad for VY for all the crap that he's been getting in Indy, despite the fact that I hate him. Still though, after hearing him speak during any interview, including the ones where he whined about not winning the Heisman, I'm not surprised at all he's dumb even by NFL QB standards. Seriously, that guy has nothing going on inside in his head.

[brady_44]

I think he's dumb as rocks... and I don't feel bad lol. That's one of the many reasons I would still pick Matt Leinart over Vince Young if it was my choice. All he really does well is hurt teams with his legs. In the NFL a QB like him won't last more than 3 or 4 years.

[TrojHen]

Think he'd be an effective NFL QB if given a good O-line?

[brady_44]

To be perfectly honest... no. I think he is an amazing college quarterback, but that's it. Running quarterbacks never seem to last in the NFL, not to mention the defense in the NFL will be like another world to him. He can throw ok, but not nearly as well as Leinart. He can always change and improve his game, but if he plays in the NFL like he did in college, I don't think he'll amount to much.

[Autzen Powers]

this is funny.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45976

but, what is the wonderlic test? What was his score? And does it really matter? This is the first I've heard of this test.

[brady_44]

Holy @#$% I didn't know he only scored a 6. And he was on track to graduate from Texas??

[TrojHen]

Wonderlic info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic

And I'm pretty sure that the leaked score of 6 was off. The score that's been circling around most recently was a 16, which is still below average, even in the NFL. Leinart on the other hand scored a 35, which is much better than average.

[Autzen Powers]

so is this test something that is really looked at as "telling" of what a player will do on the field? I can just hear them now, "uh, I was told there wouldn't be math..."

[TrojHen]

My guess is that the NFL uses it just to make fun of stupid people.

[TrojHen]

Wow, people really don't like Vince Young:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...hitlock/060309

[Go-Pac]

Drafting a QB is a crap shoot. Although it pains me to mention this, but Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were both drafted number 3 and now Akili is out of the NFL and Joey is struggling (although Detroit hasn't offered much help). Some GM will draft Young and he will be considered a genious if he does well or a moron if he doesn't when essentially it is simply luck. Well, if he is a moron Young will make good company. In the NFL draft, nothing is for sure except that nothing is for sure.

[TrojHen]

Apparently Vince doesn't only fail intelligence exams:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2380236

Scout: Young runs 40-yard dash in 4.58

QB 40-yard dash times
Reggie McNeal, Texas A&M, 4.35
Marcus Vick, Va. Tech, 4.42
Brad Smith, Missouri, 4.46
D.J. Shockley, Georgia, 4.56
Barrick Nealy, Texas St., 4.57
Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo, 4.59
Ingle Martin, Furman, 4.68
Tarvaris Jackson, Alabama St., 4.75
Brett Basanez, Northwestern, 4.75
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt, 4.77

-- Vince Young's time of 4.58 would put him in sixth place among QBs

Quarterback Vince Young was timed in 4.58 seconds in the 40-yard dash Wednesday on what is considered a fast track at the University of Texas in Austin, one NFL scout told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The scout said Young's time was slower than anticipated.

According to the same scout, Young's overall workout was "fairly impressive," but the scout said that Young was not asked to make certain drops and throws that he would have to perform in a private team workout.
While Young completed all but five of more than 50 passes, a scout told Mortensen, "That wasn't a remarkable achievement because he wasn't asked to make many tough throws and he waited a lot on his receivers to get out of their breaks. Teams that are curious about the guy are going to want to see more when they work him out."

One of those teams is the Tennessee Titans, who will give Young a private workout on Thursday in Austin, site of Wednesday's pro workout day for Young his his Longhorn teammates.

Other teams that have scheduled private workouts include the Houston Texans and New York Jets.

Asked to compare Young's workout to one given last Friday by Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler in cold weather and swirling winds, one scout said told Mortensen, "There was no comparison. Cutler made all the throws in tough conditions while Young limited his range of throws and he was indoors."

USC quarterback Matt Leinart, the consensus top passer available for the April 29 NFL draft, will work out on April 2 on the Southern Cal campus.

Young, the former Texas quarterback, worked out for 30 minutes in front of more than 100 NFL scouts, coaches and executives who are paying close attention to the quirky throwing motion that still raises questions despite delivering a national championship.

"Very impressed," said new Texans coach Gary Kubiak, whose team owns the No. 1 pick. "The kid put on a show."

Texas officials said Washington was the only team not to have someone watching the workout.

One owner, the Texans' Bob McNair, introduced himself to Young before the throwing session. Young is from Houston and has said he'd like to play for his hometown fans.

"I think he had a good workout," McNair said.

The Texans, who were 2-14 last season, are expected to lean toward drafting USC tailback and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush after extending quarterback David Carr's contract for three years.

McNair said he hopes to attend Bush's workout early next month. But he also indicated the Texans haven't decided who to draft or whether to keep or trade the pick.

As a quarterback who can run or throw, Young is the most intriguing player in the draft, scheduled for April 29-30 in New York. He may also be the most scrutinized as teams try to decide whether his Rose Bowl performance of 467 total yards and three rushing touchdowns will translate into the NFL.

"It's a very valuable pick," McNair said. "We all want to make a good decision."

According to NFL.com, Young measured 6-foot-4 5/8 and 228 pounds. He ran one 40-yard dash, timing 4.57 seconds, although Young said he was told he timed between 4.4 and 4.5.

Although Young wasn't scheduled to run Wednesday, he said he wanted to after watching some of his teammates do it.

"They wanted to see me run, so I ran," he said.

The change of heart impressed Kubiak.

"He's very competitive and got in an environment where everybody wanted to see him operate," Kubiak said. "He did a great job."

Young spent most of the last two seasons operating out of the shotgun. Wednesday's drills had him taking simulated snaps under center and working with five- and seven-step drops in the pocket.

"I showed them everything they wanted to see," Young said, adding he'll do individual workouts for teams that ask.